<P>中国人也有自己喜欢的球队，不一定是火箭，中国人也有自己讨厌的球队，说不定就是火箭，不要说什么爱国不爱国的，根本扯不上关系</P><P>就像邵佳一在慕尼黑1860，德比的时候我也支持拜仁</P>
<DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>提问</I>在2005-1-13 19:28:00的发言：</B>
<P>中国人也有自己喜欢的球队，不一定是火箭，中国人也有自己讨厌的球队，说不定就是火箭，不要说什么爱国不爱国的，根本扯不上关系</P>
<P>就像邵佳一在慕尼黑1860，德比的时候我也支持拜仁</P></DIV>
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<P>昏咯。。。</P>
<P>无语 无语。。</P>
<P>你们居然希望姚明输。。</P>
<P>我不可理解！</P>
metzelder21同学真的很有意思，我说了，中国人不一定就支持姚明，这个和爱国没有关系，而且希望姚明输？谁说的？就像Irkie对待太阳和纳什的态度，支持纳什，但是不支持太阳，我支持姚明，但不支持火箭，至于能不能理解根本无所谓，就是这态度
<P>其实，网上倒真是有不少中国球迷希望火箭输的，这拨人被人称为“Yao黑”</P>
<P>新浪上尤其多</P>
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<DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>提问</I>在2005-1-13 19:38:00的发言：</B>
metzelder21同学真的很有意思，我说了，中国人不一定就支持姚明，这个和爱国没有关系，而且希望姚明输？谁说的？就像Irkie对待太阳和纳什的态度，支持纳什，但是不支持太阳，我支持姚明，但不支持火箭，至于能不能理解根本无所谓，就是这态度</DIV>
<P>喂。。不要叫什么同学 同学的啊。
<P>想装另类也不要像你这样。
<P>火箭差了姚明会好？ 你们没有逻辑！
<P>我觉得你蛮喜欢装清高列。。</P><P>希望火箭赢和爱国无关~</P>
喜欢德国不一定要喜欢德国的一切啊！
<DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>metzelder21</I>在2005-1-13 20:23:00的发言：</B>
<P>我觉得你蛮喜欢装清高列。。</P>
<P>希望火箭赢和爱国无关~</P></DIV>
<P>metzelder21，不叫同学了，关于火箭的问题我不想再讨论，再这样下去就成了火箭的帖子了，而且很多东西再怎么讨论也是说不清楚的。
<P>最后说一句，我不想装什么清高，不喜欢火箭，不是因为姚明，也不想上升到爱国与否的层面，事实上不喜欢甚至有些厌恶的原因确实是受到其他因素影响，如果你曾经在其他论坛看过某些所谓的火箭球迷针对火箭和小牛的比赛开的讨论帖，看过某些言论，你可能会对此有所理解，over</P>
<DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>klinxj</I>在2005-1-13 21:14:00的发言：</B>
<P>而且很多东西再怎么讨论也是说不清楚的。
<P>，如果你曾经在其他论坛看过某些所谓的火箭球迷针对火箭和小牛的比赛开的讨论帖，看过某些言论，你可能会对此有所理解，over</P></DIV>
<P>恩是说不清楚
<P>而且我从不上篮球论坛撒。
<P>对于篮球我是中立的。。就比较喜欢邓肯 有点喜欢DIRK 希望姚明打好
<P>正好 德州的球队 每个都有支持的啊~~这样很好</P>
<P>我就是不喜欢姚明。。从他还没进NBA开始。。。</P><P>其实原来也没现在这么不喜欢，不过我讨厌中国的媒体没天没地的吹嘘他如何如何，讨厌某些解说强行把全国球迷的主队都说成火箭，讨厌别的队比赛时还一直唠叨姚明如何如何，火箭如何如何，根本不关心转播的比赛赛况，好像其他队都是火箭的陪衬。所以，自从姚明进NBA以后我更不喜欢了，再加上火箭那种丑陋的打球方法。。。</P><P>但是，我是中国人，所以潜意识还是有点向着火箭的，不过只限于对小牛以外的球队。因为火箭一旦赢球，中国媒体就会把火箭吹得天高，把对手贬到地狱，感觉赢了一场就爬到别人头上了一样。我特别受不了这种态度，尤其是对手是小牛的时候。</P><P>所以，我最不希望小牛输的就是火箭。</P>
<P>大家还是多讨论下小牛吧。</P>
<P>汗。。。。</P><P>呵呵有见解啊~</P><P>不过我周围的人包括我都是喜欢他的。。</P><P>而且姚明是很有实力 不是吹嘘出来的～</P>
<P>我就喜欢小牛,当然希望小牛都赢,这和爱国根本不搭界.</P><P>火箭以前的比赛打的实在太难看,真的很讨厌.不过今天确实不错,打疯了.</P><P>另外小牛队在落后时候太急噪,这太不成熟了.芬利老这样低迷,对小牛影响太大了.</P><P>没有内线的小牛队,永远成不了大气,</P>
<DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>deisler123</I>在2005-1-13 22:14:00的发言：</B>
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<P>没有内线的小牛队,永远成不了大气,</P></DIV>
<P>恩 确实。。。历史上只有JORDAN可以不要内线！
<P>而JORDAN是唯一德</P>
<P>今天是小牛没打好，根本不设防～～</P><img src=\"images/post/smile/dvbbs/em01.gif\" /><img src=\"images/post/smile/dvbbs/em01.gif\" />
期待J howard的复出，这家伙像姚明一样也得流感了..
[此贴子已经被作者于2005-1-13 23:40:42编辑过]
<P><B>Mavericks-San Antonio Spurs preview</B></P><P>7 p.m. today, SBC Center, Ch. 11, ESPN2; ESPN-FM (103.3), KFLC-AM (1270, Spanish)</P><P>09:59 PM CST on Thursday, January 13, 2005</P><P>By EDDIE SEFKO / The Dallas Morning News</P><P><B>Season series: Spurs lead, 2-0 </B></P><P><B>Key matchup
Jason Terry vs. Tony Parker:</B> The Spurs\' point guard has scored at least 20 points in four consecutive games and has averaged 6.8 assists in that span. He also has shot 34-of-57 from the field in those four games. Terry has been on a roll, too, averaging 18.7 points and 6.7 assists in the last three games. If Dirk Nowitzki and Tim Duncan cancel each other out, this will be the matchup that dictates who wins the game. </P><P><B>Inside the Mavericks</B>
<B>Getting offensive:</B> They have scored at least 100 points in each of their last eight games, meaning this will be a good test for the Spurs\' vaunted defense and the Mavericks\' offense. The Mavericks shot just better than 50 percent in those eight games. </P><P><B>By the numbers:</B> Jason Terry and Minnesota\'s Wally Szczerbiak are the only players in the league (minimum 10 3-pointers made) who shoot better than 50 percent from the field, 40 percent from beyond the 3-point arc and 80 percent from the free throw line. ... Dirk Nowitzki\'s three rebounds against Houston were his lowest total of the season. </P><P><B>Inside the Spurs
It starts with D:</B> The Spurs are allowing only 85.7 points per game, best in the NBA. Foes are shooting 41.7 percent, second best in the league. In two November meetings, the Mavericks did not break 90 points, averaging 84.5. </P><P><B>By the numbers:</B> The Spurs are beating opponents by 11.5 points per game. If they keep that up, it\'ll be the fourth-highest point differential in league history. ... Gregg Popovich is the winningest active coach by percentage at 66.1 percent. Don Nelson is fifth at 57.4 percent. ... Manu Ginobili has averaged 17.3 points in his last six games. </P><P>---------------------------------------------------------------</P><P><B>Howard expected to miss game vs. Spurs</B></P><P><B>With Dampier also ailing, Mavericks will defend by committee</B></P><P>09:54 PM CST on Thursday, January 13, 2005</P><P>By EDDIE SEFKO / The Dallas Morning News</P><P>SAN ANTONIO – The meat and the feet of the Mavericks\' defense were gone against Houston and will be again tonight against the San Antonio Spurs. </P><P><B>Josh Howard did not make the trip and is not expected to rejoin the team today. He has been suffering from an upper-respiratory infection and has lost considerable weight in the last week. </B></P><P>\"He\'s improving, but he\'s still weak,\" coach Don Nelson said. </P><P>Howard is the Mavericks\' best perimeter defender, a fast player who can lock down opponents. His absence – coupled with center Erick Dampier\'s sore knee, which limits his ability to be a force in the paint – means the Mavericks again will have to defend by committee. </P><P>The absence of Howard and Dampier\'s abbreviated action (19 minutes) was part of the reason the Rockets rolled up 124 points against the Mavericks on Wednesday. </P><P>\"They were just too good,\" Dirk Nowitzki said. \"They made shots all over the place. We\'re not a great defensive team, so every good defender out there is supposed to help. And Josh is our best defender. We put him on all the good scorers.\" </P><P><B>Nelson said Dampier\'s minutes were monitored Wednesday, and they may be shortened again tonight. </B></P><P>\"I try not to complain, but it is a reason our defense let us down a little against Houston,\" Nelson said. \"I\'m not sure it would have mattered. Offensively, they were quite a machine.\" </P><P><B>Nothing different:</B> Michael Finley has seen the Spurs for years, and there are no surprises in store for the Mavericks tonight. </P><P>\"It\'s the same old, same old,\" he said. \"Most of their offense goes through Tim Duncan. There are no tricks. They\'re not coming up with new plays. They\'ve added pieces, but it\'s just like a house. You can add a piece here or there and it\'s not going to make the value go up that much.\" </P><P>As for charting the Mavericks\' improvement this season after two November whippings by the Spurs, Finley added: \"For one, it will show us how we respond after a loss, how we handle adversity, especially going on the road. And two, we\'ll see how we play against one of the top teams.\" </P><P><B>Good times, still:</B> Don Nelson was asked what he thought of his team now that the cushy five-game, 17-day homestand is history. </P><P>\"Actually, it\'s not over yet,\" he said. \"It\'s still kind of a honeymoon, although we have a tough game . We have a number of home games after that, and we should do well over this next period of time. Then it really tightens up. February is very difficult. </P><P>\"I\'m looking forward to going on the road again. We\'ve been home so long, all our wives are ready to kick us out.\" </P><P><B>Briefly:</B> Part of the problem with the Mavericks\' collapse against Houston was that they didn\'t go to their strength, which is Dirk Nowitzki, at the offensive end. <B>\"We didn\'t get the ball to him enough when we were behind,\" coach Don Nelson said.</B> ... Michael Finley on the 4-1 homestand: \"You\'re as good as your last game. I can\'t really remember the four wins. I remember the last loss.\" ... <B>Nowitzki said the brief confrontation he had with Jerry Stackhouse in the second half Wednesday \"is over.\"</B> The two had a difference of opinion about a defensive assignment. \"We had a little argument, but at this point, we\'ve got to stick together,\" Nowitzki said. \"It was a little frustrating in the second half. We got embarrassed. To give up 130 points on your home court is embarrassing.\" </P><P>-----------------------------------------------------------------</P><P><B>No drastic measures for Mavs</B></P><P><B>Game with Spurs is big test, but it\'s too early to be ultimate barometer</B></P><P>10:20 PM CST on Thursday, January 13, 2005</P><P>By EDDIE SEFKO / The Dallas Morning News</P><P>SAN ANTONIO – <B>No matter what the networks, the analysts or other hype machines may say tonight, this is not April or May. </B></P><P><B>It\'s January. And while everybody wants a yardstick, this visit to San Antonio is more of a pulse check for the Mavericks. As in, do they still have one. </B></P><P>You get knocked around on your home court by a .500 team that shoots lights out, and the quick reaction is to let it go. No reason to dwell on the Houston Rockets, who played far over their heads for one half. </P><P>But whether they caught the Mavericks napping or whether it was a reminder that this team cannot yet be trusted on a bigger stage, the Mavericks will be challenged tonight to show their competitive spirit and come out firing against the Spurs, the consensus favorite to win the NBA title. </P><P>\"Maybe it was a little wake-up call for us,\" Dirk Nowitzki said of Wednesday\'s 124-114 loss to Houston. \"But now we\'ve got a tough game. San Antonio has kicked our butt twice this year. </P><P><B>\"A good showing would mean nothing. We\'re too good to hang our hat on that. If we want to be in the top of the West, we have to beat them.\" </B></P><P>Don Nelson has wondered when his team will develop consistency. He thought he was seeing some before Josh Howard became ill and missed Wednesday\'s game. Now, Nelson said: \"We may never know about them. It\'s a work in progress.\" </P><P><B>Nowitzki expects to rebound with a vengeance.</B> </P><P>\"We\'ve beat a bunch of teams we\'re supposed to beat,\" he said. \"Then a good team came in, put a little pressure on us and we folded. But <B>a good team always comes back strong from a loss.</B>\" </P><P><B>Even if it\'s not the ultimate measuring stick awaiting them. </B></P><P>----------------------------------------------------------------</P><P>小牛的情况还是那样，没有霍华德，丹皮尔膝部有伤无法多打，所以要依靠整体的防守；但是对手就不一样了，昨天那支队可以叫超常发挥，明天那支将会叫正常发挥，火箭和马刺完全不是一个档次的，所以明天我们将没有借口。赢不了马刺，就没法理直气壮地说自己是强者。再者，顺便送火箭一支刚刚输了球的马刺，有助于让人们希望“中国人民的主队”击败马刺的梦想成为幻想。输了，我能接受，但是队员自己呢？你们接受得了吗？所以就去拼吧，为你们自己赢，不是为我们球迷。</P>
<P>很奇怪吗？中国有多少姚蜜，就有多少姚黑。即使我们中立，不蜜不黑，也与爱国绝对无关——这个话题已经老得牙都掉光了。</P><P>我还就是不待见什么“火箭就像我们的主队”之类的话，我希望中国人在NBA能好（好不等于拿总冠军，拿不拿的着要看他的实力和运气，放眼看看整个联盟，有几人有这份荣幸？），但这是俱乐部不是国家队。我的主队是小牛，这就是我的选择，我不是因为王治郅才喜欢小牛，也不会因为姚明就喜欢火箭。</P>
<P>晕哦，这怎么打啊。</P><P>howard还不能上？Dampier还受伤？</P>
<DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>Irkie</I>在2005-1-14 16:25:00的发言：</B>
<P>很奇怪吗？中国有多少姚蜜，就有多少姚黑。即使我们中立，不蜜不黑，也与爱国绝对无关——这个话题已经老得牙都掉光了。</P>
<P>我还就是不待见什么“火箭就像我们的主队”之类的话，我希望中国人在NBA能好（好不等于拿总冠军，拿不拿的着要看他的实力和运气，放眼看看整个联盟，有几人有这份荣幸？），但这是俱乐部不是国家队。我的主队是小牛，这就是我的选择，我不是因为王治郅才喜欢小牛，也不会因为姚明就喜欢火箭。</P></DIV>
<P>的确，就好比邵佳一到了1860，我照样不喜欢1860<img src=\"images/post/smile/dvbbs/em03.gif\" /></P>