环西赛Alexandre Vinokourov退出

汉诺威街灯 · 发表于 2004-9-5 07:34:00

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>又是美国邮政，受不了拉，他们好像特别擅长这种队计赛。<img src=\"images/post/smile/dvbbs/em01.gif\" />
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>好在电信也不错，第二名能够接受，差距也不大
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汉诺威街灯 · 发表于 2004-9-5 14:43:00

官网又出问题了，看Zabel在队计赛里面的位置确实很像队长

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Cat.LoVest · 发表于 2004-9-5 16:02:00

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汉诺威街灯 · 发表于 2004-9-6 19:50:00

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>T-Mobile placed second today, led for the most part by Alexandre Vinokourov, their team leader
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>The captain gives his all, just like his team mates: Alexander Vinokourov.

汉诺威街灯 · 发表于 2004-9-6 19:51:00

昨天第二赛段，Zabel差一点就能拿到冠军，可惜了

fjc2600 · 发表于 2004-9-6 20:04:00

是T-Mobile当然要支持一下。

汉诺威街灯 · 发表于 2004-9-6 20:49:00

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>1 Max Van Heeswijk (Ned) US Postal Service p/b Berry Floor 5.32.44
2 Benoit Joachim (Lux) US Postal Service p/b Berry Floor 0.02
3 Floyd Landis (USA) US Postal Service p/b Berry Floor 0.06
4 Michael Barry (Can) US Postal Service p/b Berry Floor
5 Manuel Beltran (Spa) US Postal Service p/b Berry Floor
6 Victor Hugo Peña (Col) US Postal Service p/b Berry Floor
7 David Zabriskie (USA) US Postal Service p/b Berry Floor
8 Erik Zabel (Ger) T-Mobile Team 0.25
9 Tomas Konecny (Cze) T-Mobile Team 0.37
10 Santiago Botero (Col) T-Mobile Team
11 Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz) T-Mobile Team
12 Cadel Evans (Aus) T-Mobile Team
13 Torsten Hiekmann (Ger) T-Mobile Team
14 Steffan Wesemann (Ger) T-Mobile Team 0.48
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change2000 · 发表于 2004-9-7 17:42:00

忙啊，没来得及关心

klinxj · 发表于 2004-9-7 17:58:00

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汉诺威街灯 · 发表于 2004-9-8 16:27:00

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>第三赛段<

>1 Alejandro Valverde (Spa) Comunidad Valenciana-Kelme 3.43.17 (42.19 km/h)
2 Stuart O\'Grady (Aus) Cofidis, le credit par Telephone
3 Denis Menchov (Rus) Illes Balears-Banesto
4 Oscar Freire (Spa) Rabobank
5 Roberto Heras (Spa) Liberty Seguros
6 Stefano Garzelli (Ita) Vini Caldirola-Nobili Rubinetterie
7 Francisco Mancebo (Spa) Illes Balears-Banesto
8 Aitor Gonzalez (Spa) Fassa Bortolo
9 Damiano Cunego (Ita) Saeco
10 Cadel Evans (Aus) T-Mobile Team
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>1 Alessandro Petacchi (Ita) Fassa Bortolo 4.23.01 (38.1 km/h)
2 Erik Zabel (Ger) T-Mobile Team
3 Oscar Freire (Spa) Rabobank
4 Stuart O\'Grady (Aus) Cofidis, le credit par Telephone
5 Angelo Furlan (Ita) Alessio-Bianchi
6 Giosue Bonomi (Ita) Saeco
7 Miguel A. M. Perdiguero (Spa) Saunier Duval-Prodir
8 Pedro Horrillo (Spa) Quick.Step-Davitamon
9 Arnaud Coyot (Fra) Cofidis, le credit par Telephone
10 Luca Paolini (Ita) Quick.Step-Davitamon
11 Ion Del Rio (Spa) Paternina-Costa De Almeria
12 Mariano Piccoli (Ita) Lampre
13 Antonio Cruz (USA) US Postal Service p/b Berry Floor
14 Max Van Heeswijk (Ned) US Postal Service p/b Berry Floor
15 Nicolas Inaudi (Fra) Ag2R Prevoyance<

>35 Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz) T-Mobile Team
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>目前总排名<

>1 Benoit Joachim (Lux) US Postal Service p/b Berry Floor 13.38.59
2 Max Van Heeswijk (Ned) US Postal Service p/b Berry Floor 0.18
3 Manuel Beltran (Spa) US Postal Service p/b Berry Floor 0.24
4 Michael Barry (Can) US Postal Service p/b Berry Floor
5 Floyd Landis (USA) US Postal Service p/b Berry Floor
6 Victor Hugo Peña (Col) US Postal Service p/b Berry Floor
7 David Zabriskie (USA) US Postal Service p/b Berry Floor
8 Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz) T-Mobile Team 0.40
9 Cadel Evans (Aus) T-Mobile Team
10 Alejandro Valverde (Spa) Comunidad Valenciana-Kelme 0.47
11 Santiago Botero (Col) T-Mobile Team 0.55
12 Tomas Konecny (Cze) T-Mobile Team
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2 T-Mobile Team 1.03
3 Comunidad Valenciana - Kelme 2.17
4 Illes Balears - Banesto 2.18
5 Phonak Hearing Systems 2.52

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冲刺衫这次不是绿色的了

change2000 · 发表于 2004-9-8 17:06:00

祝贺阿泽！

change2000 · 发表于 2004-9-9 19:27:00

<DIV>这是为什么?食物总出问题?</DIV><DIV>08.09.2004/ For the T-Mobile pros Torsten Hiekmann, Santiago Botero and Steffen Wesemann the Tour of Spain is over already after the fifth stage. \"All three of them have presumably caught food poisoning\", reports Team doc Andreas Blum.

After the dinner on Tuesday in the team hotel, where the Spanish team Liberty Seguro was also accomodated, Kazakh Alexander Vinokurov was the first to complain about diarrhoea. In the early morning hours Torsten Hiekmann and Santiago Botero reported having the same symptoms. \"They had started at the race, but were so exhausted that they had to drop ou\", said Bul. Steffen Wesemann, who started to experience the problems during the race and Torsten Hiekmann quit at km 85, while Santiago got struck at the feeding zone in Alcani (km 100).

\"Vino\" and Schreck finished stage despite health problems
Alexander Vinokurov and Stephan Schreck, who also suffers from the symptoms, however, continued and later finished the race.

\" We are glad the have made it through the stage. We will try everything, to stabilize their health in the course of the tour. Especially Vino may be able to fight for one or more stage wins,\" said Blum, who expects both riders to tackle the sixth stage on Thursday. \"The two of them fought bravely today and will do everything to race tomorrow, too,\" the team doc explained. </DIV>

汉诺威街灯 · 发表于 2004-9-10 10:49:00

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>现在能够健康参加比赛的只有两个人，Vino、Konecny、Schreck仍处于恢复期，这种情况事前谁能预料得到，就像是有预谋的暗算，而酒店方面则怀疑是布丁造成的食物中毒，因为住在同一家酒店的两个车队T-mobile和 Liberty Seguros 得到的正餐食物几乎是一样的，但酒店没有向Liberty Seguros 车队提供布丁，而他们的车手身体状况良好，无中毒现象出现
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>1 Denis Menchov (Rus) Illes Balears-Banesto 5.07.44 (36.4 km/h)

2 Aitor Gonzalez (Spa) Fassa Bortolo 0.03
3 Alejandro Valverde (Spa) Comunidad Valenciana-Kelme
4 Leonardo Piepoli (Ita) Saunier Duval-Prodir
5 Carlos Sastre (Spa) Team CSC
6 Cadel Evans (Aus) T-Mobile Team 0.09
7 Francisco Mancebo (Spa) Illes Balears-Banesto
8 Isidro Nozal (Spa) Liberty Seguros
9 Manuel Beltran (Spa) US Postal Service p/b Berry Floor
10 Angel Gomez (Spa) Paternina-Costa De Almeria

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>1 Oscar Freire (Spa) Rabobank 3.48.23
2 Erik Zabel (Ger) T-Mobile Team
3 Stuart O\'Grady (Aus) Cofidis, le credit par Telephone
4 Cristian Moreni (Ita) Alessio-Bianchi
5 Miguel A. M. Perdiguero (Spa) Saunier Duval-Prodir
6 David Fernandez (Spa) Paternina-Costa De Almeria
7 Stefano Garzelli (Ita) Vini Caldirola-Nobili Rubinetterie
8 Alejandro Valverde (Spa) Comunidad Valenciana-Kelme
9 Juan Manuel Garate (Spa) Lampre
10 Luis Pasamontes (Spa) Relax-Bodysol

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>General classification after stage 6

1 Manuel Beltran (Spa) US Postal Service p/b Berry Floor 22.35.39
2 Floyd Landis (USA) US Postal Service p/b Berry Floor
3 Denis Menchov (Rus) Illes Balears-Banesto 0.04
4 Alejandro Valverde (Spa) Comunidad Valenciana-Kelme 0.09
5 Cadel Evans (Aus) T-Mobile Team 0.16
6 Benoit Joachim (Lux) US Postal Service p/b Berry Floor 0.23
7 Francisco Mancebo (Spa) Illes Balears-Banesto 0.39
8 Carlos Garcia Quesada (Spa) Comunidad Valenciana-Kelme 0.47
9 Victor Hugo Peña (Col) US Postal Service p/b Berry Floor
10 Tyler Hamilton (USA) Phonak Hearing Systems 0.50
11 Aitor Gonzalez (Spa) Fassa Bortolo 0.52
12 Santiago Perez (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 1.01
13 Roberto Heras (Spa) Liberty Seguros 1.07
14 Carlos Sastre (Spa) Team CSC
15 Dario David Cioni (Ita) Fassa Bortolo 1.14
16 Isidro Nozal (Spa) Liberty Seguros 1.17
17 Damiano Cunego (Ita) Saeco 1.23
18 Koldo Gil (Spa) Liberty Seguros 1.28
19 Rubén Plaza (Spa) Comunidad Valenciana-Kelme 1.32
20 David Blanco (Spa) Comunidad Valenciana-Kelme 1.34
21 Erik Zabel (Ger) T-Mobile Team 1.39

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汉诺威街灯 · 发表于 2004-9-10 11:08:00

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>Cadel Evans has a hard ride to come back to the peloton after fetching water - two of his T-Mobile teamates have already retired with illness...注意到这段文字说明，T-mobile留下来继续比赛的车手目前的处境太艰难了
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>Erik Zabel的冲刺衫……

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change2000 · 发表于 2004-9-10 11:41:00

西班牙人是难以让人放心的。在那里留过不好的印象。

最爱klose · 发表于 2004-9-10 20:24:00

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汉诺威街灯 · 发表于 2004-9-11 14:08:00

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>1 Alessandro Petacchi (Ita) Fassa Bortolo 3.53.04 (42.48 km/h)

2 Erik Zabel (Ger) T-Mobile Team
3 Oscar Freire (Spa) Rabobank
4 Stuart O\'Grady (Aus) Cofidis, le credit par Telephone
5 Luca Paolini (Ita) Quick.Step-Davitamon
6 Pedro Horrillo (Spa) Quick.Step-Davitamon
7 Giosue Bonomi (Ita) Saeco
8 Andy Flickinger (Fra) Ag2R Prevoyance
9 Cristian Moreni (Ita) Alessio-Bianchi
10 Miguel A. M. Perdiguero (Spa) Saunier Duval-Prodir 
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>General classification after stage 7

1 Manuel Beltran (Spa) US Postal Service p/b Berry Floor 26.28.43
2 Floyd Landis (USA) US Postal Service p/b Berry Floor
3 Denis Menchov (Rus) Illes Balears-Banesto 0.04
4 Alejandro Valverde (Spa) Comunidad Valenciana-Kelme 0.09
5 Cadel Evans (Aus) T-Mobile Team 0.16
6 Benoit Joachim (Lux) US Postal Service p/b Berry Floor 0.23
7 Francisco Mancebo (Spa) Illes Balears-Banesto 0.39
8 Carlos Garcia Quesada (Spa) Comunidad Valenciana-Kelme 0.47
9 Victor Hugo Peña (Col) US Postal Service p/b Berry Floor
10 Tyler Hamilton (USA) Phonak Hearing Systems 0.50

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1 US Postal Service p/b Berry Floor 79.26.56
2 T-Mobile Team 1.50
3 Comunidad Valenciana - Kelme 2.08
4 Illes Balears - Banesto 2.09
5 Phonak Hearing Systems 2.52

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>T-mobile转会走了不少人，有没有新进的？

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汉诺威街灯 · 发表于 2004-9-11 14:59:00

<DIV class=quote>以下是引用change2000在2004-9-10 11:41:00的发言：
西班牙人是难以让人放心的。在那里留过不好的印象。</DIV>

出现这种情况，组委会不负责吗？是不是该出来作个公开道歉什么的，起码给大家一个交代，西班牙人的工作态度和作风就是这样的？T-mobile在环西赛一下子折损四人，车队由此而遭受的各种损失应该由谁来补偿呢？

汉诺威街灯 · 发表于 2004-9-11 15:23:00

只剩下五名车手，车队不得不对战术安排作出调整。可以想象一下，五个人，要保证在总积分榜上排名位次靠前，要协助Zabel获得冲刺积分，要在车队排名上紧紧咬住美国邮政……对于这仅有的五个人来说是不是太艰难了？比赛过程中，谁来传送食物和饮料，谁来传达车队临时战术，谁来协助领先的队友完成爬坡或冲刺赛点，谁来保持整个车队的阵型？虽然每个车队最终能完成全部比赛的车手也不会是9个人，但其他车队车手是在整个赛程中逐渐退出的，没有像电信这样仅仅在比赛的开头阶段就大幅度减员。一想到这五名车手要挣扎着坚持后面漫长的赛程，心里很痛苦……

汉诺威街灯 · 发表于 2004-9-11 17:26:00

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