[反思战争] 德军装甲武器 (1933-1945)

雅利安人 · 发表于 2007-10-11 20:27:00

1000 / P 1500重量：900000-1000000kg发动机：2 x MAN V12Z32/44 Diesel / 24-cylinder / 2 x 8500hp 8 x Daimler-Benz MB501 Diesel / 20-cylinder / 8 x 2000hp

S:我觉得这个计划算是唯一现实一点的

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雅利安人 · 发表于 2007-10-11 20:38:00

-1000 \"Ratte\"与黑豹的对比图

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思维的民族 · 发表于 2007-10-12 10:04:00

太强了我只能说太震撼了德国的工业整体实力(包括设计能力)不愧世界最强

kehl的闹钟 · 发表于 2007-10-12 20:41:00

<div class=\"quote\">以下是引用雅利安人在2007-10-11 20:08:00的发言： LANDKREUZER有好几个方案其中The Landkreuzer算是比较疯狂的一个吨位在1500吨以上

S:说实话,到现在我都还弄不明白德国人当时准备用什么发动机来驱动这台钢铁超级怪兽??是用希特勒异想天开的潜水艇专用柴油引擎呢，还是用海森堡曾经设想的铀发动机（也就是我们现在所说的核反应堆）

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</div>邓尼茨吵着要造过氧化氢潜艇德国人不是算出来原子弹要几万吨吗坦克那么重也正常

kehl的闹钟 · 发表于 2007-10-12 20:42:00

<div class=\"quote\">以下是引用思维的民族在2007-10-12 10:04:00的发言： 太强了我只能说太震撼了德国的工业整体实力(包括设计能力)不愧世界最强</div>德国的工业设计.......包豪斯发明的无聊兴趣罢了

大日耳曼鹰 · 发表于 2007-10-13 12:21:00

<div class=\"quote\">以下是引用雅利安人在2007-10-11 20:27:00的发言：

1000 / P 1500重量：900000-1000000kg发动机：2 x MAN V12Z32/44 Diesel / 24-cylinder / 2 x 8500hp 8 x Daimler-Benz MB501 Diesel / 20-cylinder / 8 x 2000hp

S:我觉得这个计划算是唯一现实一点的

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</div>这一辆太酷了有点电脑游戏里未来坦克的感觉啊德国人在60多年前就有什么超前的设计能力，确实震撼

打死我都不喝 · 发表于 2007-10-13 15:48:00

进来学习的

raulzt · 发表于 2007-10-14 18:04:00

刚刚观看了discovery关于二战主战坦克的节目，该节目就坦克的火力、装甲防护、机动性、维护、生产量等几个方面进行评价，虎式坦克排在第二，而苏联的T34位居第一，而且认为T34坦克其基本设计思想直接影响了2战后主战坦克的设计！！

猎虎 · 发表于 2007-10-15 10:49:00

<div class=\"quote\">以下是引用雅利安人在2007-10-11 20:00:00的发言： 1000吨以上的坦克德国确实计划过下面给大家简单介绍一下第三德意志帝国晚期时，克虏伯曾经设想过的三项疯狂计划：水下航空母舰，空中战列舰和LANDKREUZER其中LANDKREUZER项目也就是研制千吨级超级坦克

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</div>水下航空母舰，空中战列舰...
德国当时准备打科幻战争啊<img src=\"images/post/smile/dvbbs/em08.gif\" /><img src=\"images/post/smile/dvbbs/em08.gif\" />

猎虎 · 发表于 2007-10-15 10:56:00

这些超重型毁灭坦克就算德国研制出来，凭借当时德国的工业实力，能否造的出来啊？

utopia · 发表于 2007-10-15 13:00:00

威武,喜欢

雅利安人 · 发表于 2007-10-17 19:38:00

二战晚期德国当时缺少的主要有两样东西：自然资源和时间但就这两样就足够致命假如时间和资源都够，造出来也是有可能的

猎虎 · 发表于 2007-10-23 08:15:00

图片有很多都看不见了啊谁重新贴一下

雅利安人 · 发表于 2007-10-23 21:09:00

这个网址里有很多喜欢的朋友可以来看看<a href=\"http://gunpoint-3d.com/\">http://gunpoint-3d.com/</a>

大日耳曼鹰 · 发表于 2007-10-24 10:10:00

<div class=\"quote\">以下是引用雅利安人在2007-10-23 21:09:00的发言： 这个网址里有很多喜欢的朋友可以来看看<a href=\"http://gunpoint-3d.com/\">http://gunpoint-3d.com/</a></div>多谢

大日耳曼鹰 · 发表于 2007-10-24 13:58:00

zKpfw VII (schwere) Löwe很没见过啊

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大日耳曼鹰 · 发表于 2007-10-24 14:01:00

狮子式??看着车身是豹式的但炮塔又重新设计

雅利安人 · 发表于 2007-10-24 20:49:00

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anzerkampfwagen VII Löwe (Lion)</h2>资料很少这只是它的一种设计方案还有另一种The development of super heavy tank started as early as 1941, when Krupp started the studies of superheavy Soviet tanks. In November of 1941, it was specified that the new heavy tank was to have 140mm front and 100mm thick side armor. The vehicle was to be operated by 5 men crew - 3 in the turret and 2 in the hull. This new panzer was to have maximum speed of some 44km/h being powered by 1000hp Daimler-Benz marine engine used in Schnellboot (torpedo boat). The main armament was to be mounted in the turret. The weight was to be up 90 tons. In the early months of 1942, Krupp was ordered to start the process of designing new heavy tank designated PzKpfw VII Löwe (VK7201). Its design was based on previous project by Krupp designated VK7001 (Tiger-Maus) and created in competition with Porsche\'s designs (including first Maus designs).VK7001 was to be armed with either 150mm Kanone L/37 (or L/40) or 105mm KwK L/70 gun. Lowe was to utilize Tiger II s components in order to simplify the production and service. Designers planned to build two variants of this streamlined vehicle with rear mounted turret. Light (leichte) variant would have frontal armor protection of 100mm and it would weight 76 tons. Heavy (schwere) variant would have frontal armor protection of 120mm and it would weight 90 tons. Both variants would be armed with 105mm L/70 gun and coaxial machine gun.It is known that 90ton schwere Löwe was to have its turret mounted centrally and in overall design resembled future Tiger II.Variants of Löwe were both to be operated by the crew of five. It was calculated that their maximum speed would range from 23km/h (schwere) to 27km/h (leichte). Adolf Hitler ordered that the design Leichte Löwe was to be dropped in favour of Schwere Löwe. Lion was to be redesigned in order to carry 150mm L/40 or 150mm L/37 (probably 150mm KwK 44 L/38) gun and its frontal armor protection was to be changed to 140mm. In order to improve its performance, 900-1000mm wide tracks were to be used and top speed was to be increased to 30km/h. In late 1942, this project was cancelled in favour of the development of the Maus. During the development of Tiger II, designers planned to build redesigned version of Löwe (as suggested by Oberst Fichtner), which would be armed with 88mm KwK L/71 gun and its frontal armor protection would be 140mm (as planned before). Redesigned Löwe would be able to travel at maximum speed of 35km/h and it would weight 90 tons. It was to be powered by Maybach HL 230 P 30, 12-cylinder engine producing 800hp. Löwe would be 7.74 meters long (with the gun), 3.83 meters wide and 3.08 meters high. Löwe would be operated by the crew of five. It was planned that Löwe would eventually replace Tiger II. From February to May of 1942, six different designs were considered, all based on the requirements for Löwe. On March 5/6th of 1942, order for heavier tank was placed and project Löwe was stopped in July of 1942. Löwe project never reached the prototype stage but it paved the way for its successor\'s development - Porsche\'s Maus.

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日耳曼尼亚 · 发表于 2007-10-25 10:17:00

<div class=\"quote\">以下是引用大日耳曼鹰在2007-9-25 17:37:00的发言：

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L/56火炮，更是从全方位性能上超过英美各型同类坦克。不过这一切的背后就是豹式全重高达44~46吨之多，几乎和苏联的斯大林系列重型坦克一个级别。但同样重量，IS2和IS3都算重型坦克，“黑豹”只算中型，颇有标准不同的缘由。豹式的工艺复杂，产量难以和T-34、M4“薛尔曼”等盟军坦克相比，因此经常处于战场上的数量劣势地位。豹式还是最先安装主动红外夜视仪的坦克，开创了坦克夜战设备的时代。

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</div>夜战型也就是在炮塔上部加一个夜视镜，晚上视野更加开阔一些吧另外德国这些坦克的尾排管做的很酷

豹II · 发表于 2007-10-25 14:03:00

<div class=\"quote\">以下是引用raulzt在2007-10-14 18:04:00的发言： 刚刚观看了discovery关于二战主战坦克的节目，该节目就坦克的火力、装甲防护、机动性、维护、生产量等几个方面进行评价，虎式坦克排在第二，而苏联的T34位居第一，而且认为T34坦克其基本设计思想直接影响了2战后主战坦克的设计！！</div>难得米国鬼子能少有的，正面评价一下伊万

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